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	<title>Comments on: Tiger: Differences between stock and Apple OpenSSH</title>
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		<title>By: shiftzwei  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Mac OS X und Openssh</title>
		<link>http://www.theconsultant.net/2005/06/tiger-openssh-and-srv-resolution/comment-page-1/#comment-1766</link>
		<dc:creator>shiftzwei  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Mac OS X und Openssh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] openssh von Haus aus, allerdings hat Apple ein paar Modifikationen hinzugefügt (mehr dazu hier). 	Die schnellste Möglichkeit openssh zu benutzen ist da [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] openssh von Haus aus, allerdings hat Apple ein paar Modifikationen hinzugefügt (mehr dazu hier). 	Die schnellste Möglichkeit openssh zu benutzen ist da [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DouglasDD</title>
		<link>http://www.theconsultant.net/2005/06/tiger-openssh-and-srv-resolution/comment-page-1/#comment-1757</link>
		<dc:creator>DouglasDD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 02:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same DNS behavior that you describe is about to get me and my Mac (10.4.2) banned / disconnected by my ISP (Rogers.com), who say that my box is abusing their DNS to the tune of dozens of queries per second!

When they say the abuse was happening I was running 10.4.2, I’ve just now updated to Security Update 2005-007 (v1.1) - but have no way to tell if the issue is fixed or not until after they ban me (again) - their 2nd level tech support (&quot;EULA enforcement team&quot;) was no real help.  

So far this page, and the other blog linked from here are my only sources of real information, but as a Java guy (not a network guy) I&#039;m way out of my depth trying to understand what&#039;s going on.

I seem to have the same ssh binary as you do - 10.4.2 w/ Sec-Updt 2005-007(1.1):
    b582a5b1da5999b6832dec6cb9477917  /usr/bin/ssh
    a928873e32134ef8b21ed3082b744b5c  /usr/sbin/sshd

My next step is to try building OpenSSH_p and run the resulting sshd instead of /usr/sbin/sshd (thanks for the tip!)

In the meantime I&#039;ve disabled the sshd on both the Mac and the GentooLinux box just to be safe.  (Don&#039;t know how I&#039;ll manage without being able to ssh back home from work, but hopefully I can continue like this until I get a replacement sshd

FYI, their auto-generated nasty-gram included the following log snippet:

    Date Time, Src, Query, Query type
    2005-08-24 10:03:02.87574, 24.157.68.55, telnet.tcp.quickbeam.rogers.com., Internet Unknow
    2005-08-24 10:03:02.89364, 24.157.68.55, quickbeam.slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com., Internet Addr ?
    2005-08-24 10:03:02.91165, 24.157.68.55, quickbeam.slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com., Internet Addr ?
    2005-08-24 10:03:02.92965, 24.157.68.55, quickbeam.phub.net.cable.rogers.com., Internet Addr ?
    2005-08-24 10:03:02.94782, 24.157.68.55, quickbeam.phub.net.cable.rogers.com., Internet Addr ?
    
    Date Time,Dst,Query,Response
    2005-08-24 10:03:2.87637,24.157.68.55,Error:,3(Name Error)
    2005-08-24 10:03:2.89392,24.157.68.55,Error:,3(Name Error)
    2005-08-24 10:03:2.91205,24.157.68.55,Error:,3(Name Error)
    2005-08-24 10:03:2.93289,24.157.68.55,Error:,3(Name Error)
    2005-08-24 10:03:2.94814,24.157.68.55,Error:,3(Name Error)

...where &quot;quickbeam&quot; is the host name of my Mac (behind a Cable/DSL Router)

Many thanks for the info,
./ddd

PS - appologies for the (mis-?)formatting but a quick look turned up no post-syntax guide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same DNS behavior that you describe is about to get me and my Mac (10.4.2) banned / disconnected by my ISP (Rogers.com), who say that my box is abusing their DNS to the tune of dozens of queries per second!</p>
<p>When they say the abuse was happening I was running 10.4.2, I’ve just now updated to Security Update 2005-007 (v1.1) &#8211; but have no way to tell if the issue is fixed or not until after they ban me (again) &#8211; their 2nd level tech support (&#8220;EULA enforcement team&#8221;) was no real help.  </p>
<p>So far this page, and the other blog linked from here are my only sources of real information, but as a Java guy (not a network guy) I&#8217;m way out of my depth trying to understand what&#8217;s going on.</p>
<p>I seem to have the same ssh binary as you do &#8211; 10.4.2 w/ Sec-Updt 2005-007(1.1):<br />
    b582a5b1da5999b6832dec6cb9477917  /usr/bin/ssh<br />
    a928873e32134ef8b21ed3082b744b5c  /usr/sbin/sshd</p>
<p>My next step is to try building OpenSSH_p and run the resulting sshd instead of /usr/sbin/sshd (thanks for the tip!)</p>
<p>In the meantime I&#8217;ve disabled the sshd on both the Mac and the GentooLinux box just to be safe.  (Don&#8217;t know how I&#8217;ll manage without being able to ssh back home from work, but hopefully I can continue like this until I get a replacement sshd</p>
<p>FYI, their auto-generated nasty-gram included the following log snippet:</p>
<p>    Date Time, Src, Query, Query type<br />
    2005-08-24 10:03:02.87574, 24.157.68.55, telnet.tcp.quickbeam.rogers.com., Internet Unknow<br />
    2005-08-24 10:03:02.89364, 24.157.68.55, quickbeam.slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com., Internet Addr ?<br />
    2005-08-24 10:03:02.91165, 24.157.68.55, quickbeam.slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com., Internet Addr ?<br />
    2005-08-24 10:03:02.92965, 24.157.68.55, quickbeam.phub.net.cable.rogers.com., Internet Addr ?<br />
    2005-08-24 10:03:02.94782, 24.157.68.55, quickbeam.phub.net.cable.rogers.com., Internet Addr ?</p>
<p>    Date Time,Dst,Query,Response<br />
    2005-08-24 10:03:2.87637,24.157.68.55,Error:,3(Name Error)<br />
    2005-08-24 10:03:2.89392,24.157.68.55,Error:,3(Name Error)<br />
    2005-08-24 10:03:2.91205,24.157.68.55,Error:,3(Name Error)<br />
    2005-08-24 10:03:2.93289,24.157.68.55,Error:,3(Name Error)<br />
    2005-08-24 10:03:2.94814,24.157.68.55,Error:,3(Name Error)</p>
<p>&#8230;where &#8220;quickbeam&#8221; is the host name of my Mac (behind a Cable/DSL Router)</p>
<p>Many thanks for the info,<br />
./ddd</p>
<p>PS &#8211; appologies for the (mis-?)formatting but a quick look turned up no post-syntax guide.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Sherman On-Line</title>
		<link>http://www.theconsultant.net/2005/06/tiger-openssh-and-srv-resolution/comment-page-1/#comment-1744</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Sherman On-Line</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Apple&#8217;s Patched OpenSSH doing SRV lookups?&lt;/strong&gt;

Recently, while trying to figure out why ssh is taking so long to connect to many systems under Mac OS X 10.4.1, I sniffed the DNS traffic.
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<p>Recently, while trying to figure out why ssh is taking so long to connect to many systems under Mac OS X 10.4.1, I sniffed the DNS traffic.<br />
&#8230;</p>
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